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Best glue for bakelite?
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David Axt
2005-11-23 00:52:39 UTC
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I chipped my Simpson meter and a hunk fell off. What is the best glue to
repair it?

Will superglue work okay?

Thanks,
David
Robert Murrell
2005-11-23 01:18:40 UTC
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Yes. Go to a hobby store and get the really thin stuff, like water. And
brush off both raw edges to remove any loose particles that will prevent the
two surfaces from mating together tight. Use a little acetone to clean off
any excess glue. You'll get one shot at getting it correct, but it will
almost unnoticable.
Post by David Axt
I chipped my Simpson meter and a hunk fell off. What is the best glue to
repair it?
Will superglue work okay?
Thanks,
David
William Sommerwerck
2005-11-23 12:22:34 UTC
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Superglue will work, but it gradually deteriorates. If you want a permanent
repair, use epoxy.
Ken G.
2005-12-08 13:54:47 UTC
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Then why are several of my superglued 10+ years ago bakelite radios
still perfectly glued then ?

Even the ones under stress where they had to be clamped together are
still fine .

The best glue seems to be the glue each person chooses for themselves .
GregS
2005-11-23 14:53:38 UTC
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Post by Robert Murrell
Yes. Go to a hobby store and get the really thin stuff, like water. And
brush off both raw edges to remove any loose particles that will prevent the
two surfaces from mating together tight. Use a little acetone to clean off
any excess glue. You'll get one shot at getting it correct, but it will
almost unnoticable.
Post by David Axt
I chipped my Simpson meter and a hunk fell off. What is the best glue to
repair it?
Will superglue work okay?
Thanks,
David
I once used bakelite cenent, and it seemed to work well.
GC or something, probably not sold anymore.

greg\
Brian
2005-11-23 14:02:20 UTC
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I've used J-B Weld with good results.

Brian
Peter Wieck
2005-11-23 18:41:11 UTC
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As Robert states, Super Glue is fine. Not QUITE as William suggests,
not all superglues will deteriorate. The Zap line of products has
excellent holding power and stability. I have a ten+ year old R/C
submarine held together by the stuff that runs to 12 feet of depth...
any failures would be more-or-less permanent. So, if after 10 years it
is still good under those difficult and stressful conditions, I would
suspect better if the fix is 'at peace' during its life.

Another trick, if you cover the joint on the smooth (visible) side with
Scotch brand MAGIC TAPE (with the green plaid trademark), and burnish
the tape with a fingernail, that will protect the crack edges from
spillover. Get the crack clean and tight, cover with the tape and apply
the glue from the blind side. LET IT DRY. Even "instant setting" glue
takes time as super-glue cures by catalytic reaction, when it is not
exposed to air, it takes much longer. Remove the tape, you should have
a nearly invisible seam.

If you want to bridge the inside later with Epoxy and/or JB Weld (I
would suggest the latter if color is not an issue), that will certainly
stabilize the crack against further movement and remove stress from the
glue itself. I have found that expedient unnecessary to-date.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Bill Sheppard
2005-11-23 21:18:15 UTC
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Many model plane builders, myself included, have developed a severe
allergy to CA fumes and can no longer use the stuff. New 'odorless' CA
has alleviated the allergy problem, but the stuff takes forever to set
unless 'kicker' is used. So i'm wonderin' if the odorless stuff is as
durable over time as the 'real' CA is.
I'd hate to think my planes are gonna suddenly fall
apart. :-)
Bill(oc)
Peter Wieck
2005-11-23 23:48:27 UTC
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Bill:

The Zap line of products does fine over time, even the odorless stuff.
You can "kick" it benignly using baking soda, BTW, if you don't mind
the build-up. I try to stay away from kicker on fine seams as it can
boil the glue. Airbubble inclusions do more to weaken it than anything
ease, as well as cause significant uglification of the seam if it gets
onto the 'good' side.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
William Sommerwerck
2005-11-24 00:04:53 UTC
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Post by Peter Wieck
As Robert states, Super Glue is fine. Not QUITE as William suggests,
not all superglues will deteriorate. The Zap line of products has
excellent holding power and stability. I have a ten+ year old R/C
submarine held together by the stuff that runs to 12 feet of depth...
any failures would be more-or-less permanent. So, if after 10 years it
is still good under those difficult and stressful conditions, I would
suspect better if the fix is 'at peace' during its life.
That's remarkable, as cyanoacrylates deteriorate under exposure to moisture
(the same substance that polymerizes them in the first place). If they've
found out how to stop that, great!
Peter Wieck
2005-11-24 00:17:13 UTC
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William,

Yes, they have. Actually, that would explain the pretty massive
difference between the cheap stuff and the Zap line. Per gram, the Zap
brand runs about 4x the non-specialty brands. This submarine is about
$800 in-the-water ten years ago, so I would not be complacent were I
not to trust the product.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Michael A. Terrell
2005-12-08 06:02:21 UTC
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Post by David Axt
I chipped my Simpson meter and a hunk fell off. What is the best glue to
repair it?
Will superglue work okay?
Thanks,
David
What model? I have some spare Simpson 260 case parts.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
c***@webtv.net
2005-12-08 06:55:11 UTC
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I haven't ever tried Gorilla Glue www.gorillaglue.com but they
advertise it will glue most anything together.Epoxy glue and fiberglass
resin is always good to use.About eight years ago,I had a couple of
pinhole leaks on the bottom of my van's gas tank.I repaired them with
firerglass cloth and epoxy resin.No leaks yet.Home Depot stores sell
Gorilla Glue and fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.Marine supply stores
and Sears stores also sell fibglass cloth and epoxy resin.
cuhulin
Jeffrey D Angus
2005-12-08 07:11:15 UTC
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Post by c***@webtv.net
I haven't ever tried Gorilla Glue www.gorillaglue.com
Interesting glue, I've used it to repair (er ah, hide) the
mistake I made by cutting a wardrobe door the wrong way. Smear
it on, clamp it and get out of the way, It foams up and exudes
sideways from the joint. Depending on the edge, once it's dry,
you will need SOME type of filler to fill in the small holes.
I used green lacquer spot putty and painted over it after
sanding. I'll say this. once it's glued together, it's probably
not going to come apart. I've also used it to repair a water
damaged Philco 48-1256 radio/phono cabinet and a couple of
wooden kitchen chairs that failed the "clumsy fat oaf" test.

Jeff
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Bill
2005-12-08 08:02:17 UTC
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Post by c***@webtv.net
I haven't ever tried Gorilla Glue www.gorillaglue.com
Gorilla Glue is okay for wood...It adheres well.

The downside is that it is exhorbitantly overpriced in the marketplace
and has a shelf life of about a year after being opened.
I can't imagine it being suitable for Bakelite.,
Michael A. Terrell
2005-12-08 19:49:34 UTC
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Post by Bill
Gorilla Glue is okay for wood...It adheres well.
Yeah, but how well does it work on Gorillas? ;-)
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
Jeffrey D Angus
2005-12-08 20:07:58 UTC
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Post by Michael A. Terrell
Post by Bill
Gorilla Glue is okay for wood...It adheres well.
Yeah, but how well does it work on Gorillas? ;-)
Nobody has lived long enough to find out.

Jeff
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Michael A. Terrell
2005-12-08 21:18:06 UTC
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Post by Jeffrey D Angus
Post by Michael A. Terrell
Post by Bill
Gorilla Glue is okay for wood...It adheres well.
Yeah, but how well does it work on Gorillas? ;-)
Nobody has lived long enough to find out.
Jeff
Kind of like a "Tootsie Pop"?
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
c***@webtv.net
2005-12-09 00:53:49 UTC
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www.devilfinder.com What kinds of things is Gorilla Glue good for?

I am not pushing Gorilla Glue and I wouldn't get near a Gorilla to try
it out either.What I would use for bakelite repair is two part (resin
and hardener) epoxy marine fiberglass resin (without the fiberglass
cloth) and I would never worry about it ever coming loose either.I have
always had very good luck repairing many things with marine grade epoxy
resin.
cuhulin

GregS
2005-12-08 13:48:23 UTC
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Post by c***@webtv.net
I haven't ever tried Gorilla Glue www.gorillaglue.com but they
advertise it will glue most anything together.Epoxy glue and fiberglass
resin is always good to use.About eight years ago,I had a couple of
pinhole leaks on the bottom of my van's gas tank.I repaired them with
firerglass cloth and epoxy resin.No leaks yet.Home Depot stores sell
Gorilla Glue and fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.Marine supply stores
and Sears stores also sell fibglass cloth and epoxy resin.
cuhulin
I think this is mostly for wood. It requires water for it to work right.
As I mentioned before, I did use Bakelite glue some years ago. For
most all of my heavy duty applications now, I use Plummers Goop.
Its very tough, and sticks to most things. Its takes at least a couple of days
to cure.

greg
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